Strength Vs. Charisma

So, there has been some debate about this and I was right initially, but changed it, then after @Mick1p00 put the numbers down, I switched it back.  Here is his post, which I’m not going to try to improve upon.  Thanks again Mick!

About DEX/CHA etc..

The issue with CA, is that it’s added to existing CA and not a multiplicative buff like STR.

(levelbase + weapons_damage) * skill_modifier * power * str_buff * (1 + I[ca]*(ca_stat + ca_base + ca_companions + ca_ability) + I[crit]*crit_severity )

So to put some numbers, lets start with no bonuses, assume 100 base damage (and no skill modifier and power, not relevant for this), and CA:

base is 15%, stat is about 9%, companions 0, ability 0, and no crit.

100 * (1 + 0.15 + 0.09) = 124

Now with cha at 25, we get 15% more CA:

100 * (1 + 0.15 + 0.09 + 0.15) = 139

This is 12% increase in damage over the former.

Lets see STR instead, again 15 points over 10 (25 total):

100 * 1.15 * (1 + 0.15 + 0.09) = 142.6

And we get as expected 15% over no bonus.

The bigger problem starts when we look at it together with crit, at this crit severity and CA added:

So lets assume 150% severity:

100 * (1 + 0.15 + 0.09 + 1.5) = 274

With CHA:

100 * (1 + 0.15 + 0.09 + 0.15 + 1.5) = 289

5.4% damage increase from the 15 cha points.

And instead STR:

100 * 1.15* (1 + 0.15 + 0.09 + 1.5) = 315.1
(Same 15% increase over the without bonus number)

So baring mistakes and etc… STR is always significantly better than CHA.
Even assuming 100% CA uptime.


9 thoughts on “Strength Vs. Charisma

  1. Does this change the build on mmo minds? I definitly have been bringing more deeps, and i seen you had a bunch of points in cha? Should i turn around and refocus it all into str?


    1. Well, I was right initially, and someone talked me into Charisma. You will do about 10% more damage with the points in Strength than Charisma. (I respecced twice before I was able to get the actual numbers on it). That’s why I put the post up in my blog about it. It’s up to you, but you’ll notice an increase with it in strength. Sorry about that!


      1. 10%?!?! Wow. I was doing well more damage with this new spec, with charisma. Topping the charts while running with a consistent group ( gwf sw sw tr(me) and gf). My previous build the gwf always stayed 2 mill ahead. Witch leads me to believ, i am a dummy for ignoring it before! But 10%?! Thats quite a few Mil added! Ima test this myself. Soon. Ill show you how i went with my build, gear blah blah, before and after this weekends repec. We can compare and contrast. Like i said before. 3746463 questions.

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    1. I try to maximize strength over dex over charisma. On my character, I started with 18 in str, 16 in dex, 13 in cha, and 10 in the rest. Since I’m human, I put the extra 2 points into str. When you have the choice, put your extra points in str and dex.


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